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Leaving Crazy Town Podcast

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Welcome to Leaving CrazyTown, a podcast by Dr. Sarah Michaud and Finn Allen. They help navigate life’s ups and downs, including codependency. With personal experiences and mental health expertise, they offer insights and strategies to overcome challenges and lead fulfilling lives. Episodes cover anxiety, depression, relationships, and self-improvement. This podcast is for anyone seeking guidance to improve mental health and well-being. Join Leaving CrazyTown and start your journey to a happier, healthier life.

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Leaving CrazyTown
How to Stop Obsessing Over Someone Else’s Behavior
byDr. Sarah Michaud and Finn Allen

Do you spend more time thinking about what they're doing than thinking about yourself?

 

In this solo episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud read a letter from Gary — a goldfish swimming literal circles in his tank while his dad drinks himself into the couch every night. It sounds funny until you realize you've been Gary. This episode breaks down the core of codependency: obsessing over someone else's behavior until there's nothing left of your own life, and what to actually do instead.

 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Obsessing over someone else's behavior — their drinking, their moods, their choices — is the core of codependency, not a side effect

  • Recognizing you can't control it is step one, but most people skip it and keep trying to fix anyway

  • Shifting focus to your own needs, feelings, and self-care is not selfish — it is the recovery

  • There is a real difference between worrying about what someone else is doing and identifying behaviors that are directly affecting you and require a boundary

  • A boundary is not about controlling what they do — it is about expressing what you need and what you will do if things don't change

  • You cannot carry the worry and expect it to help them — offloading it to something outside yourself, whether that is a higher power, a shelf, or a little spoon, actually works

 

NOTABLE QUOTE

”You're not expressing what you want your dad to do, but what you're expressing is what you need to do for yourself — and that's what really impacts the people we love.” — Dr. Sarah Michaud

Connect with Us:

Dr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co Crazy

Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube

Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com/

 

Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. With a unique blend of humor, honesty, and clinical insight, this show tackles the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and boundary disasters — while offering practical tools, powerful storytelling, and a roadmap for emotional freedom. Weekly episodes on YouTube (@leavingcrazytown) and all major podcast platforms.

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Meet Your Hosts - Sarah Michaud & Finn Allen

Dr. Sarah Michaud is a clinical psychologist who has worked in the field of addiction, recovery, and codependency for over thirty years. She began her career at a well-known psychiatric hospital outside of Boston and helped create the rehab program for a new residential center. Having achieved her own sobriety from alcohol and cocaine since 1984, Sarah brings her experience, education, and expertise to working with people and groups who struggle with difficult relationships and addiction. She is known for her sense of humor and direct approach to treatment.

Dr. Sarah Michaud is the author of the book CoCrazy: One Psychologist’s Recovery from Codependency and Addiction Memoir and Manual to Freedom. Her latest adventure is co-hosting the YouTube channel Leaving CrazyTown with her friend Finn, a sober transgender attorney. They discuss serious and difficult topics with a sense of humor. She believes sobriety is about living your best life, finding peace, and experiencing joy. Finding freedom from addiction and codependent relationships allows you to find that joy.

Finn Allen, a sober tax attorney by day and a Codependency Recovery YouTube channel co-host at night.

Finn’s first suicide attempt was before age ten because he was “raised” by “wolves.” He discovered achievement as a way to manage and survive trauma/abuse.  This resulted in numerous degrees and, eventually, becoming a tax attorney.  Numbers, we can control.

He got sober in 2016, precipitating the transition from his identity with achievement to a new attachment and dedication to live a joyous, connected life.

In 2020, Finn met Dr. Sarah Michaud in a twelve-step Zoom meeting. They decided to create an online codependency recovery group focused on solutions, empowering relationships, and finding freedom from repetitive patterns of connection. It was during the co-hosting of this group that Finn could accept that he was transgender. Ironically the name of the group was Coming Home to Ourselves. Finn’s transition has led to many comical and not-so-comical growth opportunities.  Despite the challenges, he is finally home in his body and the world. 

Finn and Sarah launched their YouTube channel, Leaving CrazyTown, in the fall of 2022 as a way to reach a larger audience and support people in healing from codependency and addiction while experiencing joy, laughter, self-compassion and the journey home to who you were always meant to be. 

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