In this episode of the Sober Curator Podcast, our hosts, Alysse Bryson and Tamar Medford, dive deep into a captivating conversation with actor, artist, and producer Mason McCulley, known for his role as Ken on HBO’s “Insecure.” This conversation explores Mason’s battle with alcoholism, spiritual experiences, and journey towards sobriety, along with his reflections on faith, love, and artistic expression through his one-man show, “Carole Cook Died For My Sins.”
A Spiritual Awakening Through Mushrooms
Mason McCulley shares an extraordinary tale that begins with a hookup and an unexpected spiritual experience brought on by mushrooms. During this transformative night, a recurring song triggers powerful memories of his late mentor, Carole Cook, a close friend and confidant. This experience leads him to a profound spiritual awakening, fundamentally shifting his views on divinity and ancestry. For Mason, it felt like connecting with the spirits of his loved ones, providing solace and a fresh perspective on life.
Shared Stories of Loss and Healing
Alysse Bryson, Founder of The Sober Curator, resonates deeply with Mason’s story. She shares her own experience of loss, recounting the recent passing of her Boston terrier, Roxie, and her dear friend, Rita. Their stories highlight a shared understanding of grief and spirituality’s powerful role in healing. These narratives aren’t just about sorrow; they celebrate the continuation of love and connection beyond physical existence.
Transforming Beliefs on Spirituality and Sobriety
Sobriety often brings about significant shifts in personal beliefs. McCulley reveals how he rediscovered spirituality after losing faith when his mother fell ill. His play, “Carole Cook Died For My Sins,” is a poignant expression of this journey, dealing with themes of belief, self-discovery, and redemption. Mason’s interpretation of Jesus’ teachings emphasizes finding personal truth and light, a perspective that has become integral to his sobriety. According to Mason, self-awareness and understanding one’s worth are crucial steps in the journey to sobriety.
A Personal Journey Through Darkness to Redemption
The conversation delves into Mason’s struggles with alcoholism, heavily influenced by personal stressors such as being closeted in Alabama and his mother’s illness. Mason opens up about the solace he found in his friendship with Carole Cook, a renowned actress and protege of Lucille Ball, who served as his muse. Her passing in January 2023 led Mason into a two-week drinking bender, culminating in a pivotal moment on January 25, 2023, where he felt Carole urging him to change his life. This marked the beginning of his journey towards embracing sobriety.
The Power of Sobriety Beyond Abstinence
Mason McCulley emphasizes that sobriety is more than just abstaining from alcohol; it’s about discovering joy and magic in life. This episode sheds light on how sobriety can lead to finding personal clarity and calmness. McCulley shares how his experiences with psilocybin mushrooms helped him connect with deeper parts of himself and his late mother, further fueling his journey to self-discovery.
Expressing Sobriety Through Art and Theater: “Carole Cooke Died for My Sins”
Artistic expression plays a significant role in Mason’s sobriety journey. His play, “Carole Cook Died For My Sins,” encapsulates his transformation from darkness to redemption. The play highlights his struggles, spiritual awakenings, and passion for drag culture, authenticity, and inclusivity. Mason invites listeners to celebrate the journey of sobriety and self-discovery through this heartfelt production.
Personal Reflections on Sobriety and Inclusivity
The conversation takes a delightful turn as Mason and Alysse touch on lighter topics, such as Mason’s preference for McDonald’s Diet Coke due to its unique carbonation system. They also discuss fashion choices, with Mason transitioning from old-school glam to an LA street style, embodying authenticity in his transformation. This sincerity and openness extend to Mason’s views on religion and society, advocating for greater inclusion and understanding.
Conclusion
As the episode comes to a close, Tamar, Alysse, and Mason form a new bond, emphasizing the significance of sobriety and the transformative power of personal growth. Mason McCulley’s story is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the profound impact of sobriety, spirituality, and artistic expression. His journey invites listeners to embrace their paths toward self-discovery and fulfillment.
Listeners are encouraged to engage with Mason McCulley on Instagram (@masonmcculley) for more insights on his play and sobriety journey. This episode conveys the beauty of living a sober lifestyle and encapsulates the essence of finding personal clarity and joy. While Mason’s one-man show in Los Angeles is set to end on November 24th, 2024, stay tuned for future performances in NYC and beyond. The Sober Curator will be eager to share updates as we receive them.
Getting sober matters. Staying sober matters more. That’s the whole premise.
The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture and recovery to the mic with personality, perspective and a glitter bomb of honesty. Founder and host Alysse Bryson (sober since May 1, 2006, and self-described Kevin Bacon of Recovery) is joined by co-host and show producer Tamar Routly of Podcast Impact Studio, plus a rotating bench of global Sober Curator contributors who pull up a chair as co-hosts.
What we cover, episode to episode:
Happy Every Hour: zero-proof drinks, NA beer, spirits and cocktails, reviewed by people who actually drink them.
Health and Wellness: mental health, physical health and what recovery looks like on a Tuesday.
Lifestyle: dating, parenting, shopping, style and the everyday logistics of alcohol-free living.
Entertainment: quit lit, movies, TV, music, sports and celebrity sobriety, rated with our proprietary Sobees.
Spiritual Gangster: Jesus to astrology, stoicism to the Celtic calendar.
Travel: sober events, sober retreats, Sobriety in the City and global travel without a drink in hand.
We also review other sober podcasts on Recovery Podcastland, dig into sponsored product spotlights, and go deep with contributors on how they got sober and what keeps them there. New episodes drop as video on YouTube and audio everywhere you listen.
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A.J. Daulerio got sober in the middle of the Hulk Hogan trial. Three months in, every defect of character he had was being read to a jury. He calls it fourth step dinner theater.
Then he built The Small Bow, the recovery publication Alysse was embarrassed she didn’t know about: literary essays, free Zoom meetings every day of the week, a podcast, and now a book. Two magazine people and a producer try to name the category they’re in, and mostly fail.
In this episode:
- Why AJ interviews himself in the car (and who he pretends is asking)
- “Sober BuzzFeed” vs. “literary meat”: what each of us is building and who it’s for
- The Harper’s story about AA that made AJ pay $100 a year, and why nobody writes for people who are past rock bottom and a little adrift
- Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: why 12-step is one of nine things AJ does
- The Hulk Hogan trial, the Uber driver who didn’t care, and the lesson in humility
- The Small Book, out Dec. 29
Heads up: this one goes to some dark places, including a reader AJ lost and a friend Alysse lost. Take care while listening.
CHAPTERS
00:00 The train, off the tracks
01:28 AJ interviews himself in the car
05:34 How Alysse found The Small Bow
11:39 “Chicken soup for the dark night of the soul”
14:40 Are we wellness? Sound baths and trust falls
15:19 Sober ten years, and the problems get classier
18:54 Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: 12-step is one of nine
26:35 The Harper’s story that started everything
29:58 Literary meat vs. sober BuzzFeed
41:15 Fourth step dinner theater: the Hulk Hogan trial
46:57 “I’m the writer. I’m the human.”
48:47 “So you met Hulk Hogan?”
57:17 What AJ would tell year one
01:01:59 “Fast-forward to the part they get sober”
Sober Shots:
“You’re allowed to build your whole life around a routine nobody will ever write a headline about.” (Alysse Bryson)
“All the things that I thought were being taken away from me were also the things I needed to let go of the most.” (A.J. Daulerio)
Mentioned in this episode:
– The Small Bow – The Small Book, out Dec. 29 – I’m The Sober Curator, and I Just Found The Small Bow – S2E17 with Paulina Pinsky – Backstage with The Sober Curator
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Music: TSC S2 theme “Sober Shots” created by Alysse Bryson using Suno AI, under Suno’s commercial license.
It’s always the perfect day for a perfect day!
SOBRIETY IN THE CITY is your guide to substance-free adventures and events in cities across the United States. We’re bringing you hidden gems, local hangouts, art exhibits, unique attractions and pop-up events, limited shows, and tours. Being fully present allows us to enjoy life to the fullest. But we’re still taking it all in, just one day at a time.
You can depend on us for clean, creative alternatives to maximize your time in these fantastic cities. CLICK HERE FOR OUR NEWLY LAUNCH SOBER EVENTS CALENDAR
COMING OUT SOBER! This is your guide through the wild ride of sobriety and self-discovery. We aim to create a safe, supportive space for those navigating sobriety and LGBTQ+ identities. We strive to inspire others by sharing our stories and exploring our unique challenges. Together, we’ll break down barriers, challenge rigid beliefs, and celebrate living authentically. Whether through personal anecdotes or reflections on societal norms, we hope to foster a community where everyone feels seen, heard, and loved.
Here, you’ll find stories from me and others about living sober and out loud. Let’s dive into the hilarious, heartbreaking, and everything in-between moments of breaking free from booze and societal norms.
Sober Curator Fun Fact! A handful of Sober Curator Contributors identify as being in the LBGTQIA+ community.
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Addressing the intersection of LGBTQ+ identity and substance use requires a multifaceted approach that acknowledges the unique challenges faced by this community. By advocating for inclusivity and expanding resources, we can create recovery environments where all individuals, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, can find support and healing. Click Here for a list of LGBTQ+ Recovery Resources.
