In this episode of the Sober Curator Podcast, host Alysse Bryson gathers a dynamic group of curators to explore the spiritual side of sobriety. Listen in as Anne Marie Cribbin, Daniel G. Garza, Teresa Bergen, and Derek Castleman share their unique journeys with spirituality, how ancient philosophies intertwine with modern recovery practices, and the legacies they aim to leave behind. The conversation reveals the deeply personal yet universally relatable nature of faith and recovery, sure to inspire those on their sober path.
For Anne Marie Cribbin, sobriety was more than a personal choice; it was a necessity for spiritual preservation and growth. Her journey began with a shock upon encountering the pervasive cultural conditioning that intertwined alcohol with spiritual practices. This revelation acted as a turning point, inspiring her decision to embrace sobriety as a means to strengthen her spiritual connection, something she holds in high regard. Anne Marie describes this as a reclamation of self, a refusal to stand for the slow encroachment of alcohol on her creativity, emotions, and spirituality.
The Path of Introspection and Curiosity
The podcast reveals that sobriety isn’t a one-size-fits-all journey. Teresa Bergen, a long-time yoga practitioner and teacher, marries her spiritual practices with sobriety through introspection and curiosity. Her path illustrates the power of yoga philosophy, emphasizing practices like nonviolence and contentment to enhance one’s spiritual and sober life. Through a blend of spiritual reading and applying yoga’s ancient principles, Teresa provides an illuminating insight into how sobriety and spirituality feed into one another, enriching the overall life experience.
Derek Castleman introduces the listeners to the profound influence of Stoicism on his sobriety journey, highlighting its focus on self-control and temperance—qualities essential to recovery. Stoicism offers a philosophical approach that transcends religious boundaries, providing a framework for understanding life’s challenges and overlaying them with sobriety’s demands. Derek’s exploration into this ancient philosophy underscores the message that spirituality in sobriety is not confined to religious doctrine but can be an individual pursuit of self-understanding and universal connection.
A New Kind of Spirituality
For Daniel G. Garza, spirituality in sobriety manifests as a commitment sustained over years, a journey supported by faith and newfound practices. From a traditional Catholic upbringing to developing a unique spiritual practice, Daniel illustrates that sobriety opens avenues for introspective discovery and outward service. His role as a spiritual guide through weekly horoscopes serves as both a reflection of his spiritual journey and a means of giving back, illustrating that spirituality can be a living, breathing element of sobriety.
One poignant theme discussed in the podcast is the legacy of sobriety and how it molds one’s spiritual footprint in the world. As The Sober Curator team discussed, sobriety and spirituality forge a path of renewal and hope, encouraging individuals to ponder the long-term impact of their journey. This legacy is a reflection of personal growth and a gift to the broader community, an offering of kindness, understanding, and solidarity.
The Sober Curator Podcast underlines that sobriety is a profoundly transformative journey when enriched by spiritual reflection and diverse practices. Whether through awakening to new truths, embracing historical teachings, or expanding one’s spiritual practices, individuals find unique paths suited to their needs. At the heart of this exploration is a collective understanding that embracing sobriety is not just about abstinence but about unlocking one’s fullest potential and sharing that transformative power with the world.
Resources & Links
- Sober Horoscopes by Daniel G Garza
- Teresa Bergen’s Travel and Sobriety Blog
- Derek Castleman’s Book, “The Sober Stoic”
- Anne Marie Cribbin’s Thirsty for Wonder
- Meet the Contributors
- Alcohol + Substance Use Disorder Guide
- Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide
- LBGTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide
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The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture and recovery to the mic with personality, perspective and a glitter bomb of honesty. Founder and host Alysse Bryson (sober since May 1, 2006, and self-described Kevin Bacon of Recovery) is joined by co-host and show producer Tamar Routly of Podcast Impact Studio, plus a rotating bench of global Sober Curator contributors who pull up a chair as co-hosts.
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A.J. Daulerio got sober in the middle of the Hulk Hogan trial. Three months in, every defect of character he had was being read to a jury. He calls it fourth step dinner theater.
Then he built The Small Bow, the recovery publication Alysse was embarrassed she didn’t know about: literary essays, free Zoom meetings every day of the week, a podcast, and now a book. Two magazine people and a producer try to name the category they’re in, and mostly fail.
In this episode:
- Why AJ interviews himself in the car (and who he pretends is asking)
- “Sober BuzzFeed” vs. “literary meat”: what each of us is building and who it’s for
- The Harper’s story about AA that made AJ pay $100 a year, and why nobody writes for people who are past rock bottom and a little adrift
- Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: why 12-step is one of nine things AJ does
- The Hulk Hogan trial, the Uber driver who didn’t care, and the lesson in humility
- The Small Book, out Dec. 29
Heads up: this one goes to some dark places, including a reader AJ lost and a friend Alysse lost. Take care while listening.
CHAPTERS
00:00 The train, off the tracks
01:28 AJ interviews himself in the car
05:34 How Alysse found The Small Bow
11:39 “Chicken soup for the dark night of the soul”
14:40 Are we wellness? Sound baths and trust falls
15:19 Sober ten years, and the problems get classier
18:54 Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: 12-step is one of nine
26:35 The Harper’s story that started everything
29:58 Literary meat vs. sober BuzzFeed
41:15 Fourth step dinner theater: the Hulk Hogan trial
46:57 “I’m the writer. I’m the human.”
48:47 “So you met Hulk Hogan?”
57:17 What AJ would tell year one
01:01:59 “Fast-forward to the part they get sober”
Sober Shots:
“You’re allowed to build your whole life around a routine nobody will ever write a headline about.” (Alysse Bryson)
“All the things that I thought were being taken away from me were also the things I needed to let go of the most.” (A.J. Daulerio)
Mentioned in this episode:
– The Small Bow – The Small Book, out Dec. 29 – I’m The Sober Curator, and I Just Found The Small Bow – S2E17 with Paulina Pinsky – Backstage with The Sober Curator
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– Meet the Contributors – Alcohol + Substance Use Disorder Guide – Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide – LGBTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide – Family Resource Guide
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