This episode is a not-to-miss conversation for anyone curious about how lessons from sports can enrich recovery. Hosted by Alysse Bryson, this dynamic episode welcomes Chris Marshall, founder of Sans Bar, and former college basketball athlete and coach Anne Skriba, co-hosts of the “Clean Play Podcast.” Together, they offer profound insights and genuinely motivating stories about the overlap between athletic devotion, community and living a meaningful sober life.
Why Sports and Sobriety Go Hand in Hand
Anne Skriba gets to the heart of the matter in the opening moments: “I speak the language of sport to relay my experience.” For Anne, the discipline of basketball — the practice, the teamwork, the highs and lows — is the template by which she approaches sobriety. Chris Marshall echoes this, drawing a parallel between training and recovery: “Sobriety is a choice we make every single day. That kind of devotion is much like practicing your free-throw shot every day… That’s devotion. That’s love of the game.”
The why behind the “Clean Play Podcast” is clear — Chris and Anne are passionate about helping others discover that the discipline and perseverance they see in athletes is the same energy that fuels a strong, long-lasting recovery.
Building Authentic Community
A central message of the episode is the power of authentic community in both sports and sobriety. Chris and Anne met during online meetings for The Luckiest Club, a virtual sober support group, and quickly bonded over their shared love of sports and their commitment to living sober. This connection led to forming the “Clean Play Podcast.”
“We just kept talking,” Anne laughs. “Chris was like, ‘We should do a podcast.’ And then we just did it.” Sometimes, the best support is found not on the field, but in the willingness to show up and be vulnerable.
The idea of “just push play” became a metaphor for their approach to recovery and life: commit, show up and keep growing, even when you don’t have it perfectly planned out.
Role Models in Recovery: The Power of Representation
The podcast proudly highlights guests who are breaking ground in both sports and recovery. Chris and Anne share their awe at interviewing Lauren Anderson, the first principal Black ballerina with the Houston Ballet, who now also shares her recovery story. For Chris, Lauren was an icon growing up in Houston — her willingness to be “out and proud” about sobriety was incredibly impactful and rare.
Anne also explains their approach to booking guests: “I just DM’d Lauren… and she was so gracious.” This openness reflects the core belief in Clean Play’s mission — that reaching out, sharing and supporting one another is transformative.
Chris and Anne don’t just focus on celebrities; they spotlight the everyday heroes, like John, a Sans Bar regular whose journey to connection and community in sobriety shows just how powerful sober spaces can be.
A Sober Shift in Sports Culture
The episode shines a light on a growing movement: alcohol-free spaces at sporting events and a new appreciation for wellness among athletes and fans. Alysse describes Recovery Day at the Mariners, an event bringing more than 2,000 sober fans together at the ballpark, with alcohol sales turned off in their section. Anne mentions the Oklahoma City Thunder, who famously skipped the champagne after their NBA win, setting an example for young athletes everywhere.
Chris gives the broader context: “Heineken 0.0 outsells alcoholic Heineken in some countries. Globally, people are drinking less.” Mocktails, nonalcoholic beers and sober tailgates are now mainstream, making it easier than ever to enjoy sports — or life’s big moments — without alcohol.
Key Takeaways
Sobriety as a Daily Practice:
The analogy of sports practice to sobriety is the episode’s central theme. Staying sober isn’t about one big gesture — it’s about daily commitment. Like athletes, sober individuals have to “wake up and decide who [they’re] going to be,” Chris urges.
The Universal Language of Sport:
You don’t have to be an athlete to get the message. Anne often worries about “going too deep” with sports analogies, only to find listeners relate to the lessons of dedication, teamwork and resilience.
Community Makes All the Difference:
Both sports and recovery rely on authentic connection. Whether you’re playing in a stadium or sharing in a support group, having teammates makes both the tough moments and the celebrations richer.
Role Models Matter:
When high-profile people recover out loud, it chips away at stigma and inspires everyone to pursue health and wellness.
Sober Life is Fun:
The episode closes with humor and fashion — from Bryson’s bedazzled Nike shoebox to sneaker talk — illustrating that living alcohol-free doesn’t mean living dull. “From dance floors to the ballpark, sobriety is framed not as deprivation but as embracing life with presence, memory and passion.”
The Brand’s Why: Playing Full Out in Sobriety
Chris and Anne’s enthusiasm for “Clean Play Podcast” and their sober lives is infectious. Their why is devotion — to both recovery and a purposeful, connected, joy-filled life. “You have to find things to do that you enjoy, because you’re giving up something you thought you enjoyed,” Alysse notes.
For Anne, coaching on and off the court is now her calling, helping others navigate identity shifts and find purpose in sobriety. For Chris, community-building remains at the core of Sans Bar and his advocacy.
The “Clean Play Podcast” reminds us that we can transform the energy once spent on self-destruction into the pursuit of greatness, connection and fun — both on the court and far beyond.
Sober or sober-curious, remember: The game of life is best played full out.
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In this gripping episode, Alysse sits down with filmmaker Benjamin Flaherty for a powerful conversation about the business behind addiction recovery — and why too many families are left carrying shame, confusion, and financial devastation while trying to save their loved ones. Benjamin’s documentary exposes the economics, ethics, and emotional fallout inside the modern treatment industry, while also honoring the parents, advocates, and survivors who continue fighting for change.
From medically assisted treatment debates to the insurance inequalities that shape who gets quality care, this episode goes deeper than most sober conversations dare to go. It’s raw, urgent, and grounded in truth — the kind of discussion that can only happen in a space built for honesty.
Takeaways:
Families aren’t alone. Many parents attend screenings thinking their child’s exploitation or treatment experience was “their fault” — Benjamin’s film shows the systemic patterns behind the pain.
Recovery has an economic engine. Benjamin describes the shocking moment he realized how profitability shapes care, access, and outcomes in the treatment world.
Insurance determines who gets humane care. Both Benjamin and Alysse reflect on how “good insurance” gave them safe recovery environments — an advantage many don’t have.
Pop culture shapes our understanding. Films like Dopesick, Painkiller, Pain Hustlers, Body Brokers help raise awareness but flatten nuance; documentaries add back the complexity.
Conversations spark courage. When parents meet each other at screenings, shame lifts and the real healing begins.
Key Timestamps:
00:06:40 — Benjamin’s turning point: quitting alcohol & cocaine in high-pressure advertising
00:07:45 — The myth of “the next milestone” that will magically fix everything
00:08:20 — Why treatment is the only major health process most people don’t understand
00:26:26 — Parents finding relief and validation through the film
00:27:00 — The economics of recovery: what families aren’t told
00:28:00 — Alysse shares her own insurance-based experience and privilege in treatment access
00:28:20 — Pop culture portrayals of recovery & exploitation (Body Brokers, Painkiller, Dopesick)
00:41:56 — The media Benjamin loves — and what representations resonate most
Resources & Links:
Website / Film https://www.stoptheshuffle.com/
Instagram: @benjaminflaherty
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