Ward Richmond once epitomized the high-flying life of a commercial real estate broker, where client entertainment often revolved around excessive drinking. But the illusion that alcohol enhanced social skills and curbed anxiety caught up with him—fast. Richmond’s journey from an alcohol-reliant socialite to a spiritually grounded sober individual is both inspiring and relatable for anyone struggling with addiction.
In this interview, we will explore Richmond’s transformative story and how sobriety has reshaped his personal, professional, and creative life.
Sobriety and Spirituality: Richmond’s True North
Richmond’s tale of overcoming his addiction began in late 2015 when he made his first attempt at rehabilitation. At first, he viewed sharing his struggles in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings with skepticism. However, he eventually found solace in the spiritual elements of sobriety through prayer and connecting with a higher power.
Sobriety Tips from Ward Richmond:
- Embrace spirituality: Finding strength through prayer or connection with a higher power can be a game-changer.
- Be open about your struggle: Sharing your journey reduces shame and encourages others to seek recovery.
The Illusion of Alcohol
Ward initially believed that alcohol made him better at socializing and helped with his anxiety. But the reality was far from it. What he thought was a social lubricant was masking deeper issues and delaying his personal growth.
Richmond underscores the trap many of us fall into—believing that substances enhance our abilities and sociability. It took a significant toll and a trip to rehab for him to see through this illusion.
The Roller Coaster of Relapse
Despite periods of sobriety, Richmond experienced relapses, notably a year-long period of excessive drinking, which culminated in a breakthrough: a spiritually guided decision to quit all substances. His last relapse, triggered by an unexpected drink on a flight, became a pivotal moment. His daughter’s innocent comment solidified his commitment to Alcoholics Anonymous and its steps.
Richmond’s Resilience: From Chaos to Peace
Richmond describes his ongoing journey not just as a battle against substance abuse but also as a quest for balance—a philosophy that he extends to his personal time and creative outlets. Maintaining balance, whether it’s work, gym, or even music production, is crucial.
Richmond’s Sobriety Journey – Key Takeaways:
- Daily Commitment: Sobriety is a daily choice that starts with an intention each morning.
- Community and Support: Surround yourself with a community that supports your sober lifestyle.
- Finding Peace: Prioritize long-term peace over short-lived chaos. Substance avoidance isn’t just about saying no to alcohol or drugs but about leading a balanced life.
The Role of Parenthood and Creativity
Richmond didn’t just stop drinking for himself. His role as a father significantly influenced his decision to stay sober. Songs like “Pay for the Bills,” inspired by moments with his children, testify how parenthood fuels his creativity and reinforces his resolution.
Getting sober is one thing—but staying sober? That’s where the real adventure begins.
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In this hilariously honest and deeply human conversation, Emmy-winning host Cat Greenleaf joins Alysse to spill all the sober tea—from peeing her pants during a double-booking with Tom Arnold and Art Alexakis, to discovering what sobriety actually looks like when you're no longer a “lone wolf.” Cat opens up about service, creativity, aging, friendship with Pee-wee Herman, crafting on cocaine, and the real emotional glow-up that happens when you stop pretending and start living. This episode is equal parts chaos, charm, confessions, and zero-proof realness.
Takeaways: Sobriety gets richer when you stop isolating and start connecting with people who speak your language.
Cat’s shift from “lone wolf” to community deepened her recovery—and her sanity.
Golden-age celebrity stories? Yes please. Especially ones involving Pee-wee Herman sending hourly birthday messages.
Creativity, addiction, and reinvention always have a wild intersection (including cocaine-fueled stenciling).
“Zero fucks given” remains a valid business plan—and a liberating way to live.
Key Timestamps:
[00:01:47] — Cat Greenleaf arrives: The sober stoop era begins.
[00:04:30] — “Sometimes I wish I’d shut the f*ck up”: Cat on oversharing in recovery.
[00:06:13] — The Tom Arnold + Art Alexakis pee-your-pants saga.
[00:11:00] — Pee-wee Herman memories: birthday calls & inappropriate Christmas cards.
[00:14:21] — Cocaine + crafting: Cat and Alysse trade hilarious addiction-era stories.
[00:17:00] — Hobby obsessions, lone-wolf recovery, and life after chaos.
[00:22:00] — The infamous dog-poop showdown on Cat’s beach.
[00:23:56] — The healing power of work, ocean singing, and coffee.
Resources & Links:
Cat Greenleaf — SoberNess Podcast Website https://www.soberness.com/
Cat on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sobernesspodcast/
Cat on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@sobernesspodcast
Cat on Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soberness-podcast/id1768121457
TSC Resources & Links:
–Alcohol + Substance Use Disorder Guide
–Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide
–LBGTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide
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Sobriety isn’t the end of the party—it’s just the start of a better one. Hosted by Alysse Bryson, media powerhouse and sobriety’s ultimate hype woman, and joined by Sober Curator contributors, The Sober Curator Podcast* delivers bold convos, pop culture deep dives, and zero-proof living that doesn’t suck. Whether you're sober, sober-curious, or just looking for good vibes without the hangover, we’ve got you covered. Subscribe now—because getting sober matters, staying sober matters more.
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