If you’ve ever drafted a list of moderation rules — no drinks on Tuesdays, only wine, never tequila — you know the quiet contortion act that props up a relationship with alcohol. In our conversation with creator and author Suzanne Warye, those rules get exposed for what they are: a workaround keeping the real question at bay. Not “How can I drink right?” but “What if alcohol isn’t a privilege at all?”
Suzanne’s story resists the old script. She didn’t wake up inside a classic bottom. She woke up inside a life she valued — new baby, career, marriage — and realized she could protect it now. That choice reframes sobriety as agency, not exile. It also unlocks the slow repair of self-trust. As she puts it, the outside can look fine for years, but the inside ledger tells the truth.
There’s a cultural script to unlearn, too. We swim in alcohol. Baby showers with champagne toasts. First birthdays with hard seltzers in coolers. Rosé at water parks. When “take-it-or-leave-it” drinking is held up as normal, everyone else ends up chasing a unicorn. Suzanne calls this out plainly — and with humor.
Gen X women will recognize another motif in this episode: the boundary revolution of midlife. As hormones shift and patience thins, many of us start saying the quiet part out loud. We leave early. We Irish-goodbye. We give fewer explanations and fewer F’s. It’s not meanness, it’s clarity; a nervous system calibrated by experience and, for some, by sobriety.
Suzanne’s clarity didn’t arrive in a vacuum. It grew in community. She describes sober spaces where moms can name the daily frictions — partners who still drink, the spike of perimenopausal heat, the inevitable shame spirals — and be met with nods instead of raised eyebrows. “We’re only as sick as our secrets,” Tamar reminds us. Connection is medicine.
This is the deeper promise of an alcohol-free life. Not perfect feelings (perimenopause laughs in perfect), but the capacity to feel without numbing — and then to metabolize those feelings in conversation with people who get it. Community doesn’t just help you not drink; it helps you stay awake to your actual life.
Along the way, we dismantle the moderation myth. Rules and swaps may work for a weekend, but they keep alcohol on the pedestal and you in the blame seat. Suzanne’s reframing flips the casting: remove the halo from the substance and put the agency back in your hands. That’s not punishment — it’s freedom with receipts.
And because this is The Sober Curator, there’s pop culture joy, too: a “Goonies” Little People set makes a star turn in Tchotchke of the Week, because sobriety is not a vibe killer; it’s a vibe curator.
If you’re a sober-curious mom, here are three invitations from the episode:
- Choose before you have to. You don’t need a dramatic loss to justify a better life.
- Find your room. Whether it’s a Zoom circle or a local meetup, pick a community where your honesty lands softly.
- Retire the rules. The more energy spent controlling alcohol, the less energy available for what you actually love.
Sober doesn’t mean smaller. It means more time, more trust, more you. If that sounds like relief, start with this episode — and stay for the people who will remind you you’re not alone.

Hosted by Alysse Bryson & Tamar Routly, and produced by Podcast Impact Studio, The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture, & recovery to the mic. Alongside Alysse & Tamar, rotating global contributors join as co-hosts to explore zero-proof drinks, sober travel, quit lit, entertainment, & mental health. This is sober media with personality, perspective, & a glitter bomb of honesty. Sober-curious or living alcohol-free, we’ve got you! We’re not here to help you get sober. We’re here to help you live sober: and love it.
It starts in a hotel lobby in Orlando. It ends with an invitation to Scottsdale. In between: inflatable walkers, a steam-filled hotel bathroom, Dollywood in full Dolly drag, sumo suits bought in bulk, and every sober travel hack we actually use.
Alysse and Tamar are joined by ride-or-die Sober Curator Amy Liz Harrison (50+ articles, 8 kids, airline-executive husband, carry-on always over the weight limit) for a masterclass in traveling sober and loving it. Because here's the thing about sober travel: you remember everything. Including the reason you got kicked out.
In this episode:
The Golden Girls incident at PodFest Orlando, and how Amy steamed an entire hotel bathroom trying to inflate a walker (ADHD time blindness is real, friends)
Dressed as Dolly at Dollywood. You would think there would be more of us. You would be wrong.
The airport hack every sober traveler should know: asking the gate agent to page ”a friend of Bill W.” Tamar has done it three times. People showed up.
Amy's research on 26 airports with interfaith prayer rooms, meditation spaces, and sensory-friendly quiet rooms, born from wishing recovery had its own USO
Why wearing sober merch while traveling turns strangers into your people (it's a team jersey, and your team is sober)
Travel hacks: Amy's secret-compartment vest, Tamar's carry-on conversion, and the time we got kicked out of the Neon Museum gift shop with our arms full of merchandise
THE BIG ONE: Cover Story, The Sober Curator's first-ever retreat
Cover Story Retreat: October 15 to 18, 2026
You didn't get sober to sit in the back row. Four days and three nights at the brand-new Kimpton Miralina Resort & Villas in Paradise Valley (Scottsdale), Arizona, in partnership with Evolve Retreats. All meals and NA beverages included. A 30-minute on-location photo shoot with photographer Barbie Hull. B-roll captured for you all weekend. A costume outing (it's Sober October, we will deliver). A group-built Sober in Scottsdale city guide. A live podcast recording. Sound baths and hikes for the wellness people, shopping and art galleries for the rest of us.
$3,299 single / $2,700 double. Prices go up August 21. Small group, think dinner party, not conference.
➤ Details + booking: https://evolveretreats.co/cover-story
Sober Shots from this episode:
”I've never had so much fun traveling as I have as a sober person because, wait for it, I remember everything.” (Alysse)
”What do we feel like doing today? Let's get in sumo costumes.” (Amy)
”It's the same thing as wearing a jersey. It's just your team sober.” (Amy)
”We don't need a lot of reason to do something dumb. Very little runway and we're taking off.” (Alysse)
”You didn't get sober to sit in the back row.” (Alysse)
Links + Goodies:
Cover Story Retreat: https://evolveretreats.co/cover-story
The Sober Curator luggage line (40% off for Backstage members): https://shopthesobercurator.com
Amy's 26 Airports article: https://thesobercurator.com/sober-travel-airport-quiet-rooms/
Golden Girls outing reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTjw5wpjUzB/
Inflatable walkers affiliate link, because of course: https://amzn.to/3S2r85s
The Sober Curator Rolodex: https://thesobercurator.com/the-sober-curator-rolodex/
The Sober Sip newsletter: https://www.thesobercuratornewsletter.com/
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