Everybody’s seen Intervention. If you haven’t, where have you been, and are you sure you need to be sober?
This week’s guest is one of the guys who actually knocks on that door.
Plot twist: in 2010, he was the guy behind it. Eating jail bologna sandwiches. Waiting on a sentence.
The Phone With the Short Cord
Darren Hobbs is a board-certified interventionist on A&E’s Intervention and the founder of The Firm Addiction Consulting in Nashville. He’s been sober since 2010. Tamar showed up to record dressed like a mob member, because Darren told us Tony Soprano is his spirit animal. She came heavy.
Darren got sober in jail, looking at the possibility of 20 years. His AA buddies had found peace in the storm. He was in a hell of a storm. So he decided to get sober while he was there, “no matter how long here lasts.”
He worked the steps on the jail phone, the one with the cord that only reaches so far. He said the third step prayer kneeling in front of a wall. He did his fifth step across two visits, at the prison picnic table, with “honey buns cut in half with my ID card.”
I’ve heard a lot of fifth step stories in 20 years. That’s the most specific one yet.
Not So Unique After All
Then he got out. And slowly, the uniqueness melted.
He wasn’t the only alcoholic who had ever gone to jail. He was just the only one he knew. “I was not the only alcoholic who started their life over with a trash bag.”
What he found in the rooms was the thing he’d been chasing in every bag of blow and every Coors Light with a napkin around it: the sense of belonging he always wanted. “What I was looking for was already there.”
That’s the part that gets me every time. Two decades in, I can still be shocked but not shocked by how much I have in common with people who look nothing like me on paper. That’s what recovery community looks like.
The Halfway House Kept His Last $1,000
Right out of jail, Darren handed his last $1,000 to a halfway house man. He just wanted a roof. The man was using on day one. Darren raised his hand like a good student and reported it. They moved him to another house. Same thing. When he asked to leave and get his money back, they told him it was drug test money.
They had drug tested him twice.
He ended up on a work buddy’s couch until another house voted him in. He calls himself “princess and the pea” in his addiction, a guy whose mom always made it work and whose dad always wrote the check. That last time, nobody wrote the check. “We all have our own appetite for pain,” he said. He found his.
The Stranger in Khakis
This is the story I can’t stop telling people.
Last time Darren was in jail, a tall, scrawny, nerdy guy came in to share. Polo. Khakis creased “with the JC Penney’s.” Darren hated him on sight. The guy had a collar. He probably had a phone, a fence, a mortgage. “All kinds of normal shit.”
By the time the guy stopped talking, Darren wanted to be him.
Years later, they ran into each other at a post office during a snowstorm. Darren was in shorts and clunky ’80s snow boots. He asked the guy to be his friend. The guy asked what time he worked out. Darren said 5 a.m., in his garage. “All right, I’ll be there at 5:00.”
They trained together every morning for the next 11 years.
When Darren told him what he did for a living, Jamie said, “Well, you’re gonna be an interventionist.” Darren asked how in the hell he was supposed to do that. Jamie told him to burn the boats. Read these books. I’ll call a guy. Ask to apprentice. He’ll say yes.
He said yes.
Jamie passed away last July. Darren signed off our conversation with “Long live” and his name. I’ll leave that there.
The Housekeeping Knock
Darren’s first intervention was a young man who had been a stud athlete with college offers, then didn’t leave his room for two years. Dad didn’t want to go to the door. The brothers didn’t want to go. So the lead interventionist asked Darren.
He didn’t do the police knock. He gave it the housekeeping knock. “Hey man, my name’s Darren.”
The door opened, Dad stepped in, and the first thing Darren heard was: “Daddy, what took you so long?”
The family had prepared everyone for a dog fight. What happened instead was a melt of love and hugs that these men had needed for a long time. Darren was a few feet away. That was it for him.
Today, he describes the job this way: the family has hired him to help “make it hard for their kid to die.” He leads with love and curiosity. Some interventionists get a bad rap for blitzes. Darren would rather be the matador who gets the bull to show him just enough.
The Cameras, the Couch, and Being Soft Now
I asked if cameras change the room. Darren said you forget they’re there. I told him I’d be tempted to perform recovery, to make sure I looked my best and did my best instead of doing the thing. I would do that. Darren was a little scared of the production process too, then found a crew that spoke about the people struggling with more compassion than a lot of treatment reps do.
I also confessed that 20 years sober, I’m less tough than I’ve ever been. A paper cut is the end of the world. Darren gets it. He used to cross town in a tornado, nose wrecked, to get what he needed that day. Now he doesn’t want to sit in traffic. I said the couch is too far away. We are all very soft now, and I think that’s beautiful.
Knock Gently
The last thing we talked about was when the helper needs a break. Darren said the risk is that we just start digging faster. “The quicker I set it down, the shorter I have to take a break.” I’ve been in situations where I needed to put my own mask on first and didn’t. It doesn’t end well.
Tamar’s line is the one I’m keeping: “It’s not enough to put down the drink. You gotta learn how to take care of you.”
And here’s mine. You don’t have to have the perfect story or one ounce of talent to be useful. You just have to be willing to knock gently.
Where to Find Darren
Follow Darren on Instagram and listen to his podcast, Die Sober, with his partner Zach Livingston. His work is at The Firm Addiction Consulting.
Also on our screens this week: The One About Matthew Perry on Netflix. If you want more after the doc, our Matthew Perry bonus episode is right here.
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Who is Darren Hobbs?
Darren Hobbs is a board-certified interventionist featured on A&E’s Intervention and the founder of The Firm Addiction Consulting in Nashville, Tennessee. He has been sober since 2010, when he got sober in jail. He co-hosts the Die Sober podcast and was a guest on Season 2, Episode 21 of The Sober Curator Podcast.
What does an interventionist do?
An interventionist helps a family prepare for and lead a structured conversation with a loved one who needs help with addiction. On The Sober Curator Podcast, Darren Hobbs describes his role as helping a family “make it hard for their kid to die,” and says he approaches every intervention with love and curiosity rather than confrontation.
What happens at an intervention?
The family practices ahead of time, then meets the loved one, often with a professional interventionist leading. In Darren Hobbs’ first intervention, the family expected a fight. He knocked gently, introduced himself, and the young man greeted his father with “Daddy, what took you so long?”
How did Darren Hobbs get sober?
Darren Hobbs got sober in jail in 2010, facing a possible long sentence. He worked the 12 steps with a sponsor by phone and in visits, including a fifth step at a prison picnic table. After his release, he says, he found the sense of belonging he had been looking for in addiction.
What is family of origin work?
Family of origin work examines how the family you grew up in shaped your patterns. Darren Hobbs did a week of it at Onsite in Tennessee, using psychodrama, and left understanding that his father had done the best he could with what he’d been taught.
Where can I find Darren Hobbs?
Darren Hobbs is at thefirmaddictionconsulting.com and @thedarrenhobbs on Instagram and TikTok. His podcast is Die Sober.
