In the latest episode of the Sober Curator Podcast, hosted by Alysse Bryson, guests Tawny Lara and Lisa Smith dive into a groundbreaking conversation about the importance of normalizing non-alcoholic options at social events and a broader societal understanding of sobriety. Their discussion offers valuable insights for anyone navigating sobriety while aiming to live a fulfilling and creative life.
The Shift Towards Normalizing Non-Alcoholic Options
The interview starts with Alysse Bryson noting increased alcohol-free options in airlines, hotels, and restaurants. This shift signifies a growing recognition of the need to include non-drinkers in social settings. Alysse advocates for incorporating these choices at corporate events, stressing the importance of inclusivity.
Lisa Smith echoes this by highlighting the necessity of offering appealing non-alcoholic options. Her work with companies and law firms underscores this need, highlighting the societal shift towards acceptance and normalization of non-drinking. Tawny adds a nuanced view, discussing the cost perception issue of non-alcoholic spirits. She explains that the craftsmanship justifies their price, urging listeners to reconsider the value of these meticulously crafted beverages.
Understanding the Evolution of Sobriety Content
Alysse shares her interest in creating a summit for recovery content creators, emphasizing the importance of understanding the evolution of sobriety-related content. The guests reflect on earlier works in sobriety literature, often called #QUITLIT, and their significant roles as sober authors in the movement. Lisa and Tawny discuss these works’ positive impact on countless lives, serving as a beacon for those seeking support in their sobriety journey.
The Power of Creative Expression in Sobriety
One of the emotional highlights of the episode is the discussion about the therapeutic nature of creative expression. Tawny and Lisa delve into how writing and other creative activities have been instrumental in their sobriety. Tawny advises embracing imperfection in the creative process, encouraging listeners to explore and find joy in new activities. Lisa shares her writing journey without an immediate goal, eventually leading to a book deal after ten years. Their conversation underscores the importance of enjoying the creative process without solely focusing on the end goals.
Addressing Societal Stigma and Evolving Perceptions
The guests highlight how society’s perception of sobriety is changing, particularly among younger generations like Gen Z. Lisa observes a cultural shift from breaking the stigma around sobriety to normalizing not drinking. She notes that avoiding social media has contributed positively to this evolution. This key takeaway is empowering, illustrating how changing societal norms can create a more inclusive environment for those choosing sobriety.
Innovative Sobriety Resources and Their Creation
The discussion transitions to the creation of unique sobriety resources like Lisa and Tawny’s “The Sobriety Deck. “ This deck is designed as a portable tool, offering suggestions, pointers, and journal ideas across five categories: relationships, knowing oneself, finding joy, navigating the world, and experiencing joy. Their collaborative effort in developing this resource highlights the dedication and thoughtfulness put into supporting others on their sobriety journey.
Embracing Vulnerability and Imperfection
Wrapping up the discussion, Tawny and Lisa stress the importance of vulnerability and imperfection in creative pursuits. They encourage listeners to find joy in activities without undue pressure, whether they involve writing, gardening, or any other hobbies. This reflective note leaves the audience with a powerful message about the value of the journey itself rather than just the destination.
The Unique Journey and Impact of the Sober Curator
Alysse expresses her gratitude for the guests’ contributions and influence on the sober community. The conversation solidifies The Sober Curator’s role as a vital resource for those on a sobriety journey, offering diverse content that caters to different stages and preferences. Alysse’s commitment to facilitating informed choices without imposing personal opinions mirrors The Sober Curator’s inclusive ethos.
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In this hilariously honest and deeply human conversation, Emmy-winning host Cat Greenleaf joins Alysse to spill all the sober tea—from peeing her pants during a double-booking with Tom Arnold and Art Alexakis, to discovering what sobriety actually looks like when you're no longer a “lone wolf.” Cat opens up about service, creativity, aging, friendship with Pee-wee Herman, crafting on cocaine, and the real emotional glow-up that happens when you stop pretending and start living. This episode is equal parts chaos, charm, confessions, and zero-proof realness.
Takeaways: Sobriety gets richer when you stop isolating and start connecting with people who speak your language.
Cat’s shift from “lone wolf” to community deepened her recovery—and her sanity.
Golden-age celebrity stories? Yes please. Especially ones involving Pee-wee Herman sending hourly birthday messages.
Creativity, addiction, and reinvention always have a wild intersection (including cocaine-fueled stenciling).
“Zero fucks given” remains a valid business plan—and a liberating way to live.
Key Timestamps:
[00:01:47] — Cat Greenleaf arrives: The sober stoop era begins.
[00:04:30] — “Sometimes I wish I’d shut the f*ck up”: Cat on oversharing in recovery.
[00:06:13] — The Tom Arnold + Art Alexakis pee-your-pants saga.
[00:11:00] — Pee-wee Herman memories: birthday calls & inappropriate Christmas cards.
[00:14:21] — Cocaine + crafting: Cat and Alysse trade hilarious addiction-era stories.
[00:17:00] — Hobby obsessions, lone-wolf recovery, and life after chaos.
[00:22:00] — The infamous dog-poop showdown on Cat’s beach.
[00:23:56] — The healing power of work, ocean singing, and coffee.
Resources & Links:
Cat Greenleaf — SoberNess Podcast Website https://www.soberness.com/
Cat on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sobernesspodcast/
Cat on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@sobernesspodcast
Cat on Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soberness-podcast/id1768121457
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–Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide
–LBGTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide
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