On this vibrant installment of the Sober Curator Podcast, host Alysse Bryson sits down with multi-hyphenate creative Sabyn Mayfield: musician, filmmaker, USA Boxing Masters Champion, and CEO of The Bridge to Recovery. While their conversation kicks off with a light-hearted nod to working carnival and fair gigs (and a brave adolescent stint in a cotton candy booth), it quickly dives beneath the surface. Together, Alysse and Sabyn unearth the complexities of recovery, the true meaning of healing from “wounds” rather than “trauma,” and how authentic living becomes the ultimate reward of sobriety.
Sabyn’s story is both inspiring and familiar to anyone who’s faced the rollercoaster of addiction and recovery. Sober for five years (as of the episode recording), Sabyn is open about his history of relapse and struggle:
“I’ve been trying to get this since I was 18…”
For him, the journey wasn’t a single, heroic step but an ongoing process of confronting—and accepting—his humanity. He describes early sobriety as a ticket into an amusement park: “putting the plug in the jug… is just the price of entry,” he says. Once inside, he realized that true recovery involved more than abstaining from substances. It meant healing the wounds driving his addiction and developing spiritual and mental resilience.
Wounded, Not Broken: Shifting the Language of Healing
One of Sabyn’s most resonant insights comes in his discussion of language. He prefers to talk about “woundedness” instead of “trauma,” a distinction that feels gentler yet equally honest. As he puts it:
“If you take care of a wound, you can heal a wound. Trauma feels more permanent… I really like that word wounded.”
This shift moves healing from something clinical or untouchable to something active and possible. By embracing his wounds, mourning them, and allowing them to heal, Sabyn found that the rest of recovery—especially the 12 steps—became less about avoidance and more about thriving.
Growth, Relapse, and Taking 100% Responsibility
Both Sabyn and Alysse touch on a common, often stigmatized experience in recovery: relapse. Sabyn insists, “You don’t have to go all the way to the bottom floor… it can be a speed bump rather than a train wreck.” The shame and self-blame that surround relapse can be paralyzing, but, as Sabyn shares from firsthand experience, the real transformation happens not in perfection, but in the willingness to start again and tell the truth.
He also describes the power of making amends—sometimes terrifying, occasionally anticlimactic, but always liberating. Sabyn’s advice (learned the hard way): “The linchpin for this whole thing is honesty. I had to find one person that I could tell the absolute truth to.” For him, honesty, humility, and service to others turned his recovery from mere survival into genuine, contented living.
Leading the Charge: Creating, Serving, and Giving Back
After healing his relationship with himself, Sabyn found his creative spark reignited—not as a desperate search for validation, but as a gift to himself and others. “Once I really humbled myself and I kind of had that foundational piece… it gave me the opportunity to dive back into my creative work because I wanted to, not because I had to.”
Now, as CEO of The Bridge to Recovery—a trauma and codependency residential workshop that transformed his life—Sabyn is living proof that helping others is both a calling and a cornerstone of sustained sobriety.
Perhaps the most moving takeaway from this interview is the reminder that recovery isn’t a destination but an unfolding journey. Whether you’re new to sobriety, coming back from relapse, or simply struggling with the “amusement park” of daily life, Sabyn’s message echoes: honesty, acceptance, and commitment to growth can truly set you free.
Follow along with Sabyn in all of the digital places and spaces:
- IG @sabynmayfield
- Website sabynmayfield.com
- The Bridge to Recovery
- @Sabyn on YouTube
- Sabyn Foolin’ Around Album
- Sabyn Mayfield IMBD
- Sabyn on Spotify
- Sabyn on Apple
Sabyn feat. Floyd Parton – Foolin’ Around [Sabyn Remix] (Official Video)
Sabyn & Dolly Parton – 9 to 5 to 9 (Official Video)
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Hosted by Alysse Bryson & Tamar Routly, and produced by Podcast Impact Studio, The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture, & recovery to the mic. Alongside Alysse & Tamar, rotating global contributors join as co-hosts to explore zero-proof drinks, sober travel, quit lit, entertainment, & mental health. This is sober media with personality, perspective, & a glitter bomb of honesty. Sober-curious or living alcohol-free, we’ve got you! We’re not here to help you get sober. We’re here to help you live sober: and love it.
You know the exact thing that would help. The phrase, the reframe, the tool your therapist gave you that one time. And in the moment your brain gets loud, it goes blank.
Emily and Lindsay Stetzer are sisters. They both live with OCD and anxiety, and during COVID, in matching sweatsuits, they built a company called Presently that puts the reminders from therapy on your wrist, your keys, and your bathroom mirror. Alysse and Amy Liz Harrison met them at OCDCon in Seattle, bought one of everything, and brought them on to talk about why ”good vibes only” is the enemy, why everyone has these thoughts, and what it is like to run a business with your sister when one of you has the 'tude.
In this episode:
– The OCDCon origin story: stickers, fidget spinners, and then a disco light at the end of the tunnel
– Lindsay on lining up shoes and light switches, and Emily on the anxious kid who confessed to things that didn't need confessing
– Why OCD is not about cleanliness, and why every single person has had these thoughts
– Alysse's green-light rule, Amy's 20 lightsabers, and the ”border hoarders” theory
– The ”Good vibes only” sign over Emily's bed, and why those mantras hand OCD exactly what it wants
– The six phrases, whiteboarded: passing clouds, embrace uncertainty, brave the uncomfortable
– Feelings are like gas (clouds are a nicer way to say it)
– The iPad quiz, why Presently is the name, and the invisible brother
– What we're watching: ”Ted Lasso” season four, Hilary Duff, ”Silo,” and why a scary show is good exposure therapy
CHAPTERS
00:00 Cold open: the reminder you can't remember
01:58 Why sobriety doesn't fix the blank
02:58 Meet Emily and Lindsay Stetzer
03:10 OCDCon and the disco light at the end of the tunnel
05:21 Amy buys one of everything
06:40 Lindsay: shoes, light switches, existential OCD
09:38 Emily: the anxious kid and relationship OCD
11:22 A word from Aura House
12:12 Alysse's green-light rule and magical thinking
14:01 Why this is on a sobriety podcast
14:57 Border hoarders and 20 lightsabers
16:49 ”What if” and the need for certainty
19:08 Not a live, laugh, love situation
20:36 The ”Good vibes only” sign over the bed
24:41 The matching sweatsuit pitch
27:17 The six phrases, whiteboarded
30:39 Feelings are like gas
31:18 Why ”Presently”
39:04 Working with your sister
41:52 What they didn't see coming
44:27 Watching: ”Ted Lasso,” Hilary Duff, ”Silo”
46:29 ERP: facing the fear on purpose
47:38 Backstage, and why merch starts conversations
49:29 Where to find Presently
Sober Shots:
”We are not in a live, laugh, love situation here, okay?” (Alysse Bryson)
”Every single person has had the same thoughts that we have. It's just to the extreme that you take them to.” (Lindsay Stetzer)
Mentioned in this episode:
– Take the Presently ”find your reminder” quiz
– Alysse's feature on Presently
– Backstage with The Sober Curator
– International OCD Foundation
Presently's products are reminders, not treatment. If you think you might have OCD or anxiety, talk to a licensed professional.
Getting sober matters. Staying sober matters more.
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SC RESOURCES:
– Alcohol + Substance Use Disorder Guide
– Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide
– LGBTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide
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Music: TSC S2 theme ”Sober Shots” created by Alysse Bryson using Suno AI, under Suno's commercial license.
Getting sober is one thing—but staying sober? That’s where the real adventure begins. The Sober Curator Podcast, hosted by Alysse Bryson and featuring the many voices of Sober Curator Contributors, proves that ditching booze doesn’t mean ditching fun, pop culture, or your social life.
Each episode serves up bold conversations, celeb interviews, zero-proof cocktail inspiration, and pop culture deep dives—all with laughs, honesty, and zero preachy vibes. Whether you’re sober or sober-curious, you’ll find insider tips, real-life stories, and endless reasons to love the alcohol-free life. Pull up a seat—this party’s just getting started!
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PLAY IT AGAIN is The Sober Curator’s curated playlist of sobriety anthems—songs that capture the essence of recovery journeys and lift the spirit. From timeless classics to modern hits, these tracks inspire, heal, and motivate, no matter what genre of choice. Each song is handpicked for its power to transport you to another state of mind and remind you why living alcohol-free rocks.
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We’re here to shatter the “sobriety is boring” myth with a mash-up of 80s neon, 90s hip-hop edge, early 2000s bling, and today’s hottest trends. From celebrity shoutouts to red-carpet style inspo, this is where sober is as chic as it is fun. To the celebs using their platform for good—our Sober Pop Trucker hats are off to you!
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