On this vibrant installment of the Sober Curator Podcast, host Alysse Bryson sits down with multi-hyphenate creative Sabyn Mayfield: musician, filmmaker, USA Boxing Masters Champion, and CEO of The Bridge to Recovery. While their conversation kicks off with a light-hearted nod to working carnival and fair gigs (and a brave adolescent stint in a cotton candy booth), it quickly dives beneath the surface. Together, Alysse and Sabyn unearth the complexities of recovery, the true meaning of healing from “wounds” rather than “trauma,” and how authentic living becomes the ultimate reward of sobriety.
Sabyn’s story is both inspiring and familiar to anyone who’s faced the rollercoaster of addiction and recovery. Sober for five years (as of the episode recording), Sabyn is open about his history of relapse and struggle:
“I’ve been trying to get this since I was 18…”
For him, the journey wasn’t a single, heroic step but an ongoing process of confronting—and accepting—his humanity. He describes early sobriety as a ticket into an amusement park: “putting the plug in the jug… is just the price of entry,” he says. Once inside, he realized that true recovery involved more than abstaining from substances. It meant healing the wounds driving his addiction and developing spiritual and mental resilience.
Wounded, Not Broken: Shifting the Language of Healing
One of Sabyn’s most resonant insights comes in his discussion of language. He prefers to talk about “woundedness” instead of “trauma,” a distinction that feels gentler yet equally honest. As he puts it:
“If you take care of a wound, you can heal a wound. Trauma feels more permanent… I really like that word wounded.”
This shift moves healing from something clinical or untouchable to something active and possible. By embracing his wounds, mourning them, and allowing them to heal, Sabyn found that the rest of recovery—especially the 12 steps—became less about avoidance and more about thriving.
Growth, Relapse, and Taking 100% Responsibility
Both Sabyn and Alysse touch on a common, often stigmatized experience in recovery: relapse. Sabyn insists, “You don’t have to go all the way to the bottom floor… it can be a speed bump rather than a train wreck.” The shame and self-blame that surround relapse can be paralyzing, but, as Sabyn shares from firsthand experience, the real transformation happens not in perfection, but in the willingness to start again and tell the truth.
He also describes the power of making amends—sometimes terrifying, occasionally anticlimactic, but always liberating. Sabyn’s advice (learned the hard way): “The linchpin for this whole thing is honesty. I had to find one person that I could tell the absolute truth to.” For him, honesty, humility, and service to others turned his recovery from mere survival into genuine, contented living.
Leading the Charge: Creating, Serving, and Giving Back
After healing his relationship with himself, Sabyn found his creative spark reignited—not as a desperate search for validation, but as a gift to himself and others. “Once I really humbled myself and I kind of had that foundational piece… it gave me the opportunity to dive back into my creative work because I wanted to, not because I had to.”
Now, as CEO of The Bridge to Recovery—a trauma and codependency residential workshop that transformed his life—Sabyn is living proof that helping others is both a calling and a cornerstone of sustained sobriety.
Perhaps the most moving takeaway from this interview is the reminder that recovery isn’t a destination but an unfolding journey. Whether you’re new to sobriety, coming back from relapse, or simply struggling with the “amusement park” of daily life, Sabyn’s message echoes: honesty, acceptance, and commitment to growth can truly set you free.
Follow along with Sabyn in all of the digital places and spaces:
- IG @sabynmayfield
- Website sabynmayfield.com
- The Bridge to Recovery
- @Sabyn on YouTube
- Sabyn Foolin’ Around Album
- Sabyn Mayfield IMBD
- Sabyn on Spotify
- Sabyn on Apple
Sabyn feat. Floyd Parton – Foolin’ Around [Sabyn Remix] (Official Video)
Sabyn & Dolly Parton – 9 to 5 to 9 (Official Video)
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Getting sober matters. Staying sober matters more. That’s the whole premise.
The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture and recovery to the mic with personality, perspective and a glitter bomb of honesty. Founder and host Alysse Bryson (sober since May 1, 2006, and self-described Kevin Bacon of Recovery) is joined by co-host and show producer Tamar Routly of Podcast Impact Studio, plus a rotating bench of global Sober Curator contributors who pull up a chair as co-hosts.
What we cover, episode to episode:
Happy Every Hour: zero-proof drinks, NA beer, spirits and cocktails, reviewed by people who actually drink them.
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A.J. Daulerio got sober in the middle of the Hulk Hogan trial. Three months in, every defect of character he had was being read to a jury. He calls it fourth step dinner theater.
Then he built The Small Bow, the recovery publication Alysse was embarrassed she didn’t know about: literary essays, free Zoom meetings every day of the week, a podcast, and now a book. Two magazine people and a producer try to name the category they’re in, and mostly fail.
In this episode:
- Why AJ interviews himself in the car (and who he pretends is asking)
- “Sober BuzzFeed” vs. “literary meat”: what each of us is building and who it’s for
- The Harper’s story about AA that made AJ pay $100 a year, and why nobody writes for people who are past rock bottom and a little adrift
- Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: why 12-step is one of nine things AJ does
- The Hulk Hogan trial, the Uber driver who didn’t care, and the lesson in humility
- The Small Book, out Dec. 29
Heads up: this one goes to some dark places, including a reader AJ lost and a friend Alysse lost. Take care while listening.
CHAPTERS
00:00 The train, off the tracks
01:28 AJ interviews himself in the car
05:34 How Alysse found The Small Bow
11:39 “Chicken soup for the dark night of the soul”
14:40 Are we wellness? Sound baths and trust falls
15:19 Sober ten years, and the problems get classier
18:54 Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: 12-step is one of nine
26:35 The Harper’s story that started everything
29:58 Literary meat vs. sober BuzzFeed
41:15 Fourth step dinner theater: the Hulk Hogan trial
46:57 “I’m the writer. I’m the human.”
48:47 “So you met Hulk Hogan?”
57:17 What AJ would tell year one
01:01:59 “Fast-forward to the part they get sober”
Sober Shots:
“You’re allowed to build your whole life around a routine nobody will ever write a headline about.” (Alysse Bryson)
“All the things that I thought were being taken away from me were also the things I needed to let go of the most.” (A.J. Daulerio)
Mentioned in this episode:
– The Small Bow – The Small Book, out Dec. 29 – I’m The Sober Curator, and I Just Found The Small Bow – S2E17 with Paulina Pinsky – Backstage with The Sober Curator
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Getting sober is one thing—but staying sober? That’s where the real adventure begins. The Sober Curator Podcast, hosted by Alysse Bryson and featuring the many voices of Sober Curator Contributors, proves that ditching booze doesn’t mean ditching fun, pop culture, or your social life.
Each episode serves up bold conversations, celeb interviews, zero-proof cocktail inspiration, and pop culture deep dives—all with laughs, honesty, and zero preachy vibes. Whether you’re sober or sober-curious, you’ll find insider tips, real-life stories, and endless reasons to love the alcohol-free life. Pull up a seat—this party’s just getting started!
MUSIC – PLAY IT AGAIN: Pop Buchanan & Sabyn Dear Addicts Remix Official Music Video
PLAY IT AGAIN is The Sober Curator’s curated playlist of sobriety anthems—songs that capture the essence of recovery journeys and lift the spirit. From timeless classics to modern hits, these tracks inspire, heal, and motivate, no matter what genre of choice. Each song is handpicked for its power to transport you to another state of mind and remind you why living alcohol-free rocks.
Got a favorite sobriety theme song? We want to hear it! Send your picks to thesobercurator@gmail.com and help us keep the playlist growing.
SOBER POP CULTURE at The Sober Curator is where mainstream trends meet the vibrant world of sobriety. We serve up a mix of movie, podcast, fashion, and book recommendations alongside alcohol-free cocktails, celebrity features, and pop culture buzz—all with a sober twist.
We’re here to shatter the “sobriety is boring” myth with a mash-up of 80s neon, 90s hip-hop edge, early 2000s bling, and today’s hottest trends. From celebrity shoutouts to red-carpet style inspo, this is where sober is as chic as it is fun. To the celebs using their platform for good—our Sober Pop Trucker hats are off to you!
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