Sobriety isn’t just about the moment you quit—it’s about what happens after. This is the ethos behind the Sober Curator Podcast, and it’s brought to life in Episode 21 by filmmaker and creator Aaron Strand. Host Alysse Bryson dives deep with Aaron, exploring the creative alchemy that transformed his struggles with addiction into an acclaimed feature film, Withdrawal. Their conversation peels back the curtain on creativity, ego, and growth, showing the power of staying open when recovery gets real—and messy.
Aaron’s story is both raw and inspiring. After hitting a low—homeless in New York City and returning to his small hometown of Athens, Georgia—he found himself pouring anger, resentment, and disappointment into notebooks just to survive another day sober. These weren’t polished prose or poetic reflections. They were messy, honest, and unfiltered. But a serendipitous Facebook conversation with a college friend changed everything; after reading Aaron’s vivid account of addiction’s internal chaos, she encouraged him: “This would be a great monologue.”
That bit of support planted a crucial seed. “It’s amazing what a little well-timed encouragement can do, especially when you’re in that super broken, vulnerable place just grasping for any kind of light,” Aaron reflects. With that validation, those venting sessions morphed into early scripts and a creative purpose that would evolve over a decade.
Building a Feature Film from Heartbreak—and Hope
Ten years—and many unfinished projects—later, Aaron reached a turning point. When a funded film fell through, he pivoted, channeling his experience into a contained, deeply personal story about a young couple preparing to quit heroin and try Suboxone for the first time. The result is Withdrawal: a love story wrapped in the gritty reality of recovery, told over a taut 36 hours.
“For every year, for 10 years, basically since I got sober, I said to myself, this is the year that I’m going to make a feature film,” Aaron recalls. “Every year I have fallen short… It’s hard to get those pieces together, especially for a first one.” Finally, all the elements clicked: the raw truth he’d captured in journals, a flexible indie approach, and the humility recovery had given him.
The production itself felt like another stage in recovery—pragmatic, community-supported, and focused on mutual respect. “I made a promise to every single person that I worked with… You’re going to be taken care of, treated with respect. You’re going to leave feeling like an artist. I can’t pay you what you’re worth, but I’ll make up for it with meaning.”
Art, Ego, and Emotional Hangovers
Film festivals and creative highs can be intoxicating, especially for those in early recovery. Aaron had tasted artistic success before, but only in sobriety did he learn to hold it with gratitude, not ego. “When I was younger, if to have those experiences, it was an immediate attachment to my ego. It was like, oh, I’m the shit, right? Which would then lead to these huge emotional fall offs.”
Now, he savors the accomplishment without the crash, grounded by gratitude and humility. The film’s sold-out Atlanta Film Festival screening was powerful, but Aaron notes the difference: “I was able to move through it with a degree of maybe grace and humility. I’ve never really experienced anything like it.”
Why Real Recovery Stories Matter—On Screen and Off
In a media landscape filled with polished, sanitized versions of addiction, Aaron’s commitment to honesty sets Withdrawal apart. Audiences connected with the film’s unflinching yet nuanced depiction of recovery; even the challenging scenes were met with respect (and, in one case, a few audience members literally running from the theater—an artist’s badge of honor in some circles).
But more than critical acclaim, it’s the moments when people approach him to share their own stories that affirm his mission. “There’s hardly a person alive in this country that has not been touched by this disease in one way, shape, or another,” he says. By being public and transparent, Aaron has created space for others to step out of the shadows.
Follow along with Aaron Strand in all of the digital spaces and places:
- IG @strandedonstage
- FILM IG @withdrawalfilm
- Withdrawal on Rotten Tomatoes (Sober Curator Pro Tip: This is where you can watch the trailer)
- Behind the Slate Podcast
- Crash Zoom Podcast
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Therapist, author and media pro Kelley Kitley joins Alysse to unpack “gray area” drinking, stigma around labels and what long-term recovery really feels like — including a visceral craving moment and the simple, honest tools that kept her sober. They also dig into cross-addictions, perimenopause curveballs, parenting teens and how sharing your story (even when it’s messy) can change lives.
Takeaways:
“Gray area” drinking thrives on qualifiers; clarity reduces stigma and increases connection.
Cravings can resurface years in — play the tape forward and “tell on yourself” to your sober network.
Sharing your story can be a professional risk — and a lifeline for others (and you).
Language and identity (“alcohol-free,” “sober,” “alcoholic”) often depend on social circles; choose what supports your recovery.
Perimenopause symptoms can echo old patterns; stack healthy coping tools early.
Key Timestamps:
[02:01] — Alysse’s Chicago intro + Kelley’s “grew up above a bar” backstory.
[06:00] — Media hustle: pitching herself, ”Today Show” bump and making impact.
[09:08] — Making her mess her message: therapist transparency & the book.
[18:32] — A real-time craving in a hotel — and the group text that saved the day.
[34:23] — Labels, stigma and the “gray area” short film.
[27:26] — Perimenopause, rage, sleep and staying out of old habits.
Resources & Links:
-Kelley Kitley: Website, Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook
-Book: ”MY self: An autobiography of survival”
-TEDx: ”I show my scars so others know they can heal”
–The Kelley Kitley Podcast: America's Social Worker Unfiltered
-YouTube: ”Gray Area”
–Alcohol + Substance Use Disorder Guide
–Recovery Nonprofit Resource Guide
–LBGTQ+ Recovery Resource Guide
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Sobriety isn’t the end of the party—it’s just the start of a better one. Hosted by Alysse Bryson, media powerhouse and sobriety’s ultimate hype woman, and joined by Sober Curator contributors, The Sober Curator Podcast* delivers bold convos, pop culture deep dives, and zero-proof living that doesn’t suck. Whether you're sober, sober-curious, or just looking for good vibes without the hangover, we’ve got you covered. Subscribe now—because getting sober matters, staying sober matters more.
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