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    From Barstools to Boundaries: America’s Social Worker Kelley Kitley Gets Real About Sobriety

    Alysse BrysonBy Alysse BrysonOctober 29, 20254 Mins Read
    From Barstools to Boundaries: America’s Therapist Kelley Kitley Gets Real About Sobriety
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    From Barstools to Boundaries: America’s Social Worker Kelley Kitley Gets Real About Sobriety

    Gray Area, Bright Lines: Why Kelley Kitley’s Honesty Lands Where It Hurts — and Heals  

    “I just want to take the edge off.” It’s the whisper that pretends to be help. On a quiet out-of-town night, therapist and author Kelley Kitley felt that old whisper again — years into sobriety. The picture looked harmless enough: hotel room, kid at practice, fatigue baked into the week. Then came the honest math: half an hour of exhale in exchange for a full day of consequences — and, if history has any say, a lot more than one day. So she did what the sober old-timers teach and our egos hate: she told on herself. A group text went out. The responses flooded back. The moment passed. She drove on, blasting Jelly Roll, a small defiant anthem that said: not today.   

    Kitley’s story is disarmingly ordinary, which is exactly why it’s brave. The cultural script for “problem drinking” still clings to extremes — job lost, life burning, bridges ash. Gray-area drinkers rarely look like that. They look like successful graduates who “partied and blacked out” and then aced a class the next morning. They look like moms taking the edge off with nightly wine because parenting is relentless and the world keeps suggesting a glass might help. Qualifiers — I wasn’t homeless, I didn’t lose my job — become the comforting lullaby that keeps the questions at bay.   

    On the episode, Alysse and Kelley pull at the thread that binds those qualifiers to stigma. When people insist, “I’m not an alcoholic, I’m alcohol-free,” language can widen or close doors. Sometimes the point of a label is courage, a way to step into rooms where help lives. Sometimes the point is permission, an identity that makes change feel possible. As Kelley notes, your circle often shapes your language; the aim is to choose what protects your life. The rest is just branding.   

    Kitley also names the tension many clinicians feel: the traditional rule to keep personal history out of the room. She risked otherwise. Journals turned into chapters, which turned into a book she could only finish after she got sober. It wasn’t about confession as spectacle; it was about belonging. When one person says the quiet part loud, isolation breaks — and in that draft of oxygen, recovery gets practical.   

    Long-term sobriety, the pair agree, is less a straight line than a daily practice. Some days it hums in the background; others, it taps your shoulder and asks, Remember me? That’s when “play the tape forward” matters — a miniature time machine that fast-forwards past the first exhale to the shame spiral, the hangover, the logistics. That’s also when community becomes not just a concept but a speed dial.   

    And because real life never restricts itself to a single headline, the conversation widens: perimenopause rage that flashes like weather, sleep that goes missing, bodies that remember old shortcuts (restricting, overworking, over-exercising) even after we’ve retired them. The trick isn’t to outrun biology; it’s to refuse old bargains. Stack tools early. Ask for help before the cliff. Keep it boringly practical.   

    #ADDTOCART on AMAZON

    Perhaps the most subversive thing in the episode is the insistence that sober life is not a punishment, and it’s definitely not boring. Boring was blackout déjà vu and keys you couldn’t find because you couldn’t remember the night before. Connection, on the other hand, is vivid. When Kelley’s kids ask why mom doesn’t drink and dad can, the answer lives in behavior and outcomes, not in shame. When friends ask about labels, the response is generous: do what works, but know that language shapes pathways. And when a craving pops up uninvited, call your people, put on the song and drive. That’s not dour self-denial; that’s choosing freedom.   

    If you’ve ever felt stuck in the gray, consider this your nudge to turn on a brighter light. Choose the word that opens the door to the room you need. Tell on yourself early. Borrow someone else’s hope until yours clocks back in. Most of all, remember: the tape always plays past the first sip. Let it. Then choose the life you keep getting to have.  

    Listen to the full episode of The Sober Curator Podcast featuring Kelley Kitley wherever you get podcasts.  

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    Media Reel: Kelley Kitley, America’s Social Worker

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    The Sober Curator Podcast brings sober lifestyle, pop culture and recovery to the mic with personality, perspective and a glitter bomb of honesty. Founder and host Alysse Bryson (sober since May 1, 2006, and self-described Kevin Bacon of Recovery) is joined by co-host and show producer Tamar Routly of Podcast Impact Studio, plus a rotating bench of global Sober Curator contributors who pull up a chair as co-hosts.

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    We also review other sober podcasts on Recovery Podcastland, dig into sponsored product spotlights, and go deep with contributors on how they got sober and what keeps them there. New episodes drop as video on YouTube and audio everywhere you listen.

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    A.J. Daulerio on The Small Bow, Getting Sober in the Middle of the Hulk Hogan Trial, and Why Sober Media Needs a New Category
    byAlysse Bryson

    A.J. Daulerio got sober in the middle of the Hulk Hogan trial. Three months in, every defect of character he had was being read to a jury. He calls it fourth step dinner theater.

    Then he built The Small Bow, the recovery publication Alysse was embarrassed she didn’t know about: literary essays, free Zoom meetings every day of the week, a podcast, and now a book. Two magazine people and a producer try to name the category they’re in, and mostly fail.

    In this episode:

    • Why AJ interviews himself in the car (and who he pretends is asking)
    • “Sober BuzzFeed” vs. “literary meat”: what each of us is building and who it’s for
    • The Harper’s story about AA that made AJ pay $100 a year, and why nobody writes for people who are past rock bottom and a little adrift
    • Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: why 12-step is one of nine things AJ does
    • The Hulk Hogan trial, the Uber driver who didn’t care, and the lesson in humility
    • The Small Book, out Dec. 29

    Heads up: this one goes to some dark places, including a reader AJ lost and a friend Alysse lost. Take care while listening.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 The train, off the tracks

    01:28 AJ interviews himself in the car

    05:34 How Alysse found The Small Bow

    11:39 “Chicken soup for the dark night of the soul”

    14:40 Are we wellness? Sound baths and trust falls

    15:19 Sober ten years, and the problems get classier

    18:54 Abstinence, sobriety, recovery: 12-step is one of nine

    26:35 The Harper’s story that started everything

    29:58 Literary meat vs. sober BuzzFeed

    41:15 Fourth step dinner theater: the Hulk Hogan trial

    46:57 “I’m the writer. I’m the human.”

    48:47 “So you met Hulk Hogan?”

    57:17 What AJ would tell year one

    01:01:59 “Fast-forward to the part they get sober”

    Sober Shots:

    “You’re allowed to build your whole life around a routine nobody will ever write a headline about.” (Alysse Bryson)

    “All the things that I thought were being taken away from me were also the things I needed to let go of the most.” (A.J. Daulerio)

    Mentioned in this episode:

    – The Small Bow – The Small Book, out Dec. 29 – I’m The Sober Curator, and I Just Found The Small Bow – S2E17 with Paulina Pinsky – Backstage with The Sober Curator

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    November 1 - November 30

    National Gratitude Month

    National Gratitude Month National Gratitude Month is observed every November in the United States, encouraging people to practise thankfulness, appreciate the people and experiences in their lives, and build habits

    November 1

    Daylight Savings Time Ends

    Daylight Savings Time Ends

    November 1

    Daylight Savings Time Ends

    Daylight Savings Time Ends

    October 24 - November 1

    Journey to Machu Picchu via Salkantay Trail

    October 30 - November 2

    25th Annual Halloween Gratitude Cruise

    October 31 @ 8:00 pm - November 1 @ 12:00 am <span class='timezone'> EDT </span>

    Get Spooked with Society Sobriety

    Monday, October 26, 2026

    • October 26, 2026 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
      Claude Anonymous | Weekly Monday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind
    • October 26 @ 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm PDT

      Claude Anonymous | Weekly Monday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind

      Claude Anonymous | Weekly Monday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind Bring your questions, your half-finished projects, and your low-grade panic about AI. One hour,

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    Tuesday, October 27, 2026

    • October 27, 2026 11:00 am - 12:00 pm
      TASTE LAB at Sans Bar Institute
    • October 27 @ 11:00 am - 12:00 pm PDT

      TASTE LAB at Sans Bar Institute

      TASTE LAB at Sans Bar Institute TASTE LAB at SBI is a 4-week series of four hour-long virtual sessions designed for hospitality professionals, bottle shop owners, and non-alcoholic beverage enthusiasts

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    Wednesday, October 28, 2026

    • October 28, 2026 8:00 am - 5:00 pm
      NYC soberversary celebration – October 2026
    • October 28 @ 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EDT

      NYC soberversary celebration – October 2026

      NYC soberversary celebration - October 2026 Congrats on your sober anniversary! Let's party with great drinks, a social, and gifts. 🥳 Celebrate milestones, mindfulness, and community! Bar Nun is hosting

    • October 28, 2026 4:00 pm - 5:00 pm
      BACKSTAGE LIVE STREAM: The One About Matthew Perry
    • October 28 @ 4:00 pm - 5:00 pm PDT

      BACKSTAGE LIVE STREAM: The One About Matthew Perry

      BACKSTAGE LIVE STREAM: The One About Matthew Perry "The One About Matthew Perry" is streaming on Netflix. Now we talk about it. Join Alysse Bryson, founder of The Sober Curator,

    • October 28, 2026 6:00 pm - 7:30 pm
      Spooky Sips: Halloween Garnish Workshop – Oct 28, 2026
    • October 28 @ 6:00 pm - 7:30 pm EDT

      Spooky Sips: Halloween Garnish Workshop – Oct 28, 2026

      Spooky Sips: Halloween Garnish Workshop – Oct 28, 2026 Get into the Halloween spirit, minus the spirits. Join Ellevate at The Hub for a 75-minute hands-on workshop where you'll learn

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    Thursday, October 29, 2026

    • Virtual Event
      October 29, 2026 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm
      Claude Anonymous | The Bi-Weekly Thursday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind
    • Virtual Event
      October 29 @ 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm PDT

      Claude Anonymous | The Bi-Weekly Thursday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind

      Claude Anonymous | The Bi-Weekly Thursday AI Meeting for Sober Humans Who Are Sick of Feeling Behind Bring your questions, your half-finished projects, and your low-grade panic about AI. One

    • October 29, 2026 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
      Fresh Start: Campfire Magic✨| Teetotal Initiative Pittsburgh
    • October 29 @ 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm EDT

      Fresh Start: Campfire Magic✨| Teetotal Initiative Pittsburgh

      Fresh Start: Campfire Magic✨| Teetotal Initiative Pittsburgh Thu, Oct 29 | 353 Greensburg Pike Back by popular demand, Fresh Start: Campfire Magic returns for a cozy autumn night of s’mores,

    • October 29, 2026 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
      Sober Club Spooktakular
    • October 29 @ 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm PDT

      Sober Club Spooktakular

      Sober Club Spooktakular Celebrate Halloween sober at Sober Club Spooktacular—with costumes, games, music, prizes, spooky treats, and community!

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    Friday, October 30, 2026

    • October 30, 2026 7:30 pm - 8:30 pm
      No Drink Minimum Comedy | Bigvision 309 Social Club
    • October 30 @ 7:30 pm - 8:30 pm EDT

      No Drink Minimum Comedy | Bigvision 309 Social Club

      No Drink Minimum Comedy | Bigvision 309 Social Club Get ready to laugh it off! Bigvision presents a night of live comedy featuring a lineup of NYC’s funniest rising comedians-

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    Saturday, October 31, 2026

    No events on this day.

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    Sunday, November 1, 2026

    No events on this day.

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