Cat Greenleaf has always had a gift for making people talk. It’s what made Talk Stoop iconic—celebrities plopped on her Brooklyn steps, sudsy coffee in hand, opening up in ways they never planned to. She’s a four-time Emmy-winning interviewer for a reason. But on this episode of The Sober Curator Podcast, Cat reveals that sobriety has flipped that gift back on her—and this time, she’s the one doing the talking.
It’s the kind of episode that reminds you: sobriety isn’t neat, filtered, or curated to perfection. It’s messy. It’s wise. It’s ridiculous. It’s real. And in Cat’s case… it occasionally involves peeing your pants during a back-to-back guest booking with Tom Arnold and Art Alexakis.
The Moment Sobriety Got Real
Cat describes the early years of her sobriety as a kind of self-imposed exile. “I was a lone wolf,” she admits. “Until I started Soberness, I wasn’t part of any recovery groups. I was just out here in Coney Island trying to do it alone.”
It’s a familiar story to many of us who white-knuckled our way through early recovery, assuming we were the one person who didn’t need community. But Cat quickly discovered the truth: a lone wolf becomes a loco wolf. Isolation is the express lane back to crazytown.
What changed everything was connection. Interviewing celebrities about sobriety created a common language—an instant shorthand that made her feel less alone. “We’re picking up mid-conversation,” she says. “There’s no preamble, no explaining who we used to be. We just get each other.”
When Life Hands You Tom Arnold and Art Alexakis…
If you listen to the episode for one reason, let it be Cat’s now-infamous back-to-back booking mishap.
Picture it: Cat mid-interview with Tom Arnold, bladder on the brink, when Everclear frontman Art Alexakis logs into the Zoom waiting room ten minutes early. Before she can excuse herself, Tom insists she bring him in. Suddenly she’s hosting a one-woman Sober Jaws symposium—with two men out-trauma-bonding each other while she sits frozen in agony.
She held it.
She tried.
She lost.
She peed.
And in one of the best sober punchlines ever delivered, she announces: “I have to buy a new office chair.”
It’s not just hilarious. It’s profoundly relatable. Sobriety doesn’t turn you into a graceful goddess of emotional regulation. Sometimes it just hands you a pee story and says: Use it for the plot.
The Good, The Bad, and the Bedazzled
The conversation swerves—as all good sober chats do—from parental trauma to crafting while high to why nobody warned women that sneezing after 40 becomes a full-contact sport.
And then there’s her long friendship with Paul Reubens (Pee-wee Herman), including:
- birthday calls every hour on her birthday
- a collection of “beautiful, elaborate Christmas cards”
- which she didn’t know included hidden dicks until her husband pointed them out
Cat doesn’t just tell stories—she reveals humanity. Her humor lands because it’s grounded in grief, growth, and a sober awareness of the world’s ridiculousness.
What Recovery Actually Looks Like Now
Cat’s toolkit is simple and refreshingly unpretentious:
- Ocean singing. Her favorite audience.
- Coffee—by the stein.
- Work. Not hustle culture—creative service.
- Boundaries. Occasionally enforced with a bag of dog poop thrown (gently-ish) toward a guy who refused to pick up after his dogs.
Her life now isn’t perfect or highly optimized. It’s not a Pinterest board of sober aesthetic. It’s something better: aligned.
What Cat Teaches Us Without Saying It
The gold in this episode isn’t the humor—though there’s plenty. It’s the clarity that comes from a woman who’s lived many lives and finally decided to live the one she wants.
Cat Greenleaf is reinventing herself again, but this time she’s not doing it for a network, a brand, or a ratings sheet. She’s doing it with her sober mind, her full heart, and a microphone pointed inward.
Sobriety, she reminds us, is not about being good.
It’s about being here.
Being awake.
Being in your body—even when it betrays you during a celebrity interview.
And maybe that’s the real sober stoop: a place where we show up exactly as we are, laugh at the messy parts, and tell the truth anyway.
- Cat Greenleaf — SoberNess Podcast Website www.soberness.com
- Cat on Instagram @sobernesspodcast
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In this hilariously honest and deeply human conversation, Emmy-winning host Cat Greenleaf joins Alysse to spill all the sober tea—from peeing her pants during a double-booking with Tom Arnold and Art Alexakis, to discovering what sobriety actually looks like when you're no longer a “lone wolf.” Cat opens up about service, creativity, aging, friendship with Pee-wee Herman, crafting on cocaine, and the real emotional glow-up that happens when you stop pretending and start living. This episode is equal parts chaos, charm, confessions, and zero-proof realness.
Takeaways: Sobriety gets richer when you stop isolating and start connecting with people who speak your language.
Cat’s shift from “lone wolf” to community deepened her recovery—and her sanity.
Golden-age celebrity stories? Yes please. Especially ones involving Pee-wee Herman sending hourly birthday messages.
Creativity, addiction, and reinvention always have a wild intersection (including cocaine-fueled stenciling).
“Zero fucks given” remains a valid business plan—and a liberating way to live.
Key Timestamps:
[00:01:47] — Cat Greenleaf arrives: The sober stoop era begins.
[00:04:30] — “Sometimes I wish I’d shut the f*ck up”: Cat on oversharing in recovery.
[00:06:13] — The Tom Arnold + Art Alexakis pee-your-pants saga.
[00:11:00] — Pee-wee Herman memories: birthday calls & inappropriate Christmas cards.
[00:14:21] — Cocaine + crafting: Cat and Alysse trade hilarious addiction-era stories.
[00:17:00] — Hobby obsessions, lone-wolf recovery, and life after chaos.
[00:22:00] — The infamous dog-poop showdown on Cat’s beach.
[00:23:56] — The healing power of work, ocean singing, and coffee.
Resources & Links:
Cat Greenleaf — SoberNess Podcast Website https://www.soberness.com/
Cat on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sobernesspodcast/
Cat on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@sobernesspodcast
Cat on Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soberness-podcast/id1768121457
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